Interview: "Supervillain" - Holly Hebe, Ivoris, and Zhuli
Q: ‘Supervillain’ has such a chill vibe, I love it! What is the meaning behind the song?
Holly, Ivoris, & Zhuli: Thank you! It’s basically about embracing the narrative of being painted as a villain. We were talking about how it’s unfair that women can be painted as crazy and hysterical, and how it makes them the villain of other people’s stories. This is our version of taking back the power in that situation in a cute and fun way. The whole song is also just not taking that situation seriously, making it fun and whimsical almost!
Q: What did the songwriting process look like for this song? How did you guys decide to collaborate on a song together?
Holly, Ivoris, & Zhuli: We actually wrote this at a writing camp that Ivoris organized in February! This was one of our collective favorites to come from the camp. I think we all knew we wanted to release it as soon as we wrote it, before we’d even written the second verse. It was inspired by the conversation we were having at the time, which was about people painting girls as crazy and branding them the villain, and how much we didn’t like that stereotype. From there, the song flowed really naturally. We all knew which bits we wanted to sing, and it was all already decided during that session. Ivoris and Holly then produced it up and then Zhuli flew down to record and finish the track. It’s been a great excuse to hang out in person as well, and we’ve all become really close because of it.
Q: What is your favorite part about being musicians?
Holly, Ivoris, & Zhuli: Being able to collaborate creatively with other musicians and create music is one of our favorite parts of it. Collaboration feels like connecting with someone. The idea that other people can connect and relate to our songs and experiences is also one of my favorite things, that music could create emotions and feelings or help someone get through something.
Q: Who would you say are your biggest inspirations?
Holly, Ivoris, & Zhuli: We all have so many different inspirations, but collectively we love Taylor Swift! We’re also heaps inspired by icons like Charli XCX, Phoebe Bridgers, Benee, Doja Cat, Cxloe, Telenova!
Q: Do you have any hobbies outside of music?
Holly: I love doing anything that’s creative– I love reading poetry and painting. I also love going op shopping and grabbing coffee with friends at the beach or something outdoors like that!
Ivoris: I love the process of creating things - like doing watercolor paintings, or baking! I also frequently go to the beach and on forest walks. Like Zhuli, I binge watch shows in my spare time but it’s always the same shows on repeat: Gilmore Girls, Hannah Montana and The Office.
Zhuli: Music honestly takes up most of my time - when I’m not writing and releasing music, I’m usually playing at weddings and events. In my spare time i like to binge watch TV shows. Recently I’ve been watching Bobs Burgers, Rings of Power, and the Boys. Ask me next week and I’ll have three different shows to tell you about. I also love second hand shopping so before gigs on the weekends I’m usually browsing through markets!
Q: What is some of the best advice you have received?
Holly: The best advice I have been given is that you’re never too old or young for something. I think sometimes I have felt intimidated at times in this industry and a lot of that has been to do with feeling young and maybe not as wise as other people in the room. I’ve been trying to get better at knowing who I am as a musician and valuing that over age. Everyone has something to bring to the table! I think that’s really important to remember when you're finding your way in an industry where progress and success isn't linear.
Ivoris: I once heard Brooke Fraser say that “good music will find ears that want to hear it”, and that’s stuck with me ever since. It reminds me that music is subjective and that it’s okay if your music doesn’t resonate with someone, because it will find the ears it was meant for.
Zhuli: If you love a song enough to release it and have it fail, you should release it! Releasing music is scary and everyone has different opinions on your art but the only opinion that should matter to you is your own. Back yourself and your vision.
Interviewed By Kendall Koval